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On episode four our host, John Papola, speaks with author, academic, and historian Deirdre McCloskey. McCloskey describes herself as “a literary, quantitative, postmodern, free-market, progressive-Episcopalian, Midwestern woman from Boston who was once a man.” Needless to say, this is a very interesting and wide-ranging conversation!

Papola and McCloskey unpack economics and philosophy from Deirdre’s unique, historical point of view — including what she’s learned about economic planning. Deirdre also shares the story behind her two great transformations: From Marxism to Classical Liberalism; and from male to female. 

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References from this episode:

Mutual Aid a Factor of Evolution by Prince Alekseevich Kropotkin

The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels

Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis by Ludwig von Mises

Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World--and Why Things Are Better Than You Think by Hans Rosling, Anna Rosling Ronnlund, & Ola Rosling

The Population Bomb by Paul R Ehrlich

The Rise and Fall of American Growth: The U.S. Standard of living since the Civil War by Robert J. Gordon

If You’re So Smart: The Narrative of Economic Expertise by Deirdre N. McCloskey

Why Liberalism Works: How True Liberal Values Produce a Freer, More Equal, Prosperous World for All by Deirdre N. McCloskey

The Bourgeois Virtues by Deirdre N. McCloskey

Bourgeois Equality by Deirdre N. McCloskey

Bourgeois Dignity by Deirdre N. McCloskey