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On today's episode, I am join by Mike White, head coach of Grey Matter Training. Mike and I discuss transitioning out of bodybuilding, expectations for growth and fat loss, hard conversations we have with athletes and more.

To find Mike, you can find him on instagram @mike.ryan.white or you can email him mike@greymattertraining.com

To find Anthony, you can find him on instagram @anthony_spada_ or email him anthony@thenoblepursuitcoaching.com