Angel is a self-made entrepreneur and beauty queen from the Philippines. We talk about our home studio setups, the struggles of growing up without much money, the love of learning, history class in the Philippines, preparing for a beauty pageant, competitive PowerPoint battles, my love of being embarrassed, how she started her own business, philanthropy, Filipino business role models, her podcast, Steve Jobs, asking permission, confidence, outsourcing, being a fun manager, the moment I realized the pandemic was going to have a massive effect on my professional life, working from home, lack of communication, the value of vulnerability, taking the pandemic seriously, the errors of coronavirus terminology, flu shots, applying hospitality skills to everyday life, and local honey.