I talk with a bus driver and youth pastor from eastern Kentucky. We discuss driving, youth group, my home church, the effects of the pandemic on his congregation, Bonnaroo, how he got involved in his church, going through the motions, emotional intelligence among teenage boys, the positive effects of participating in team sports, high school theater, improv, alcoholism, his turning point, prayer in school, spilling the tea, keeping up with slang, his podcast, Food Network, rating restaurants, hospitality, Kanye West, my dad, political apathy, media bias, support of Trump, tolerance, hypocrisy in the news, the Pledge of Allegiance, the mustard seed, Christian intolerance, and Big Chungus.
