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Listen to our 4th Episode of Gold and Great, where Long talks with Salvador Abiera, Doctor of Physical Therapy and co-founder of Fortify Strength. Using entertainment to motivate gamers into fitness, Sal combines healthcare & storytelling in a unique way. But first, Long and Elsa share memories of creative constants in their lives as well as the influence of martial arts in pop culture.

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