It's episode 20 of Oh Vienna podcast, where comedian Lee Kyle and his son Keir discuss pop music - specifically songs that got to number two in the charts and decide if they should have beaten the song that topped the charts.
This week, it's Song 2 by Blur vs R Kelly's I Believe I Can Fly.
Look, yep, R Kelly. We know. He's not nice that bloke.
Is it though, just TOO Perfect that Song 2 got to number 2?
It's full of good swearing and a proper laugh.
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