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Darell and Drew are back with another two-part interview, this time with Salvation Army Captain Andy Miller III of Tampa Bay, FL. Andy is a composer,  author (Holistic Hospitality) and a gifted preacher who comes from a heritage of Salvation Army leadership. A graduate of Asbury University, Drew caught up with him when his family took an epic summer road trip up the east coast to Boston. The episode kicks off with The Pulse (1:45) in which Darell shares a controversial take on Frozen II. The interview begins (20:00) with Andy's defense of Salvation Army brass banding as a worship form and discusses the pitfalls (23:30) of the band creating a high church environment that can stifle community, which gained a name – Preludegate – in his congregation. The origin story (26:30) of Salvation Army brass bands precedes a discussion of the intersections between composing music and writing a good sermon (30:30) in which Andy uses the 50-cent phrase “the motific development of an idea.” Eugene Lowry's The Homiletical Plot and the approach to preaching in which “you upset the equilibrium, you analyze the problem and then you…” have to listen to find out (32:30). Part I ends with a comparison between preaching in music and Andy's admonishment: “Don’t give it away too soon”

Coming next week in Part II, Miller really gets animated discussing the ideas behind When Healing Hurts and Drew coins the phrase "poverty tourism."