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Sarah is hoping to grow her following “Numbers can’t be the goal. It’s got to be the people, connecting with people.” YouTube tutorials say “Don’t look at your subscriber count, but look at who your core people are, and connect with them and what they’re saying.”

(4:45) “My dad is my hero” Sarah describes his truly heartbreaking childhood as “a hard knock story.” (8:30) “He was a ratbag as well.” (9:45) Darell and Sarah geek out on woodworking & favorite tools: Sarah chose her nailgun and then waxes poetic about her miter saw. (11:00) The cardinal sin of painting hard wood and Sarah's favorite paint colors (13:45) “Any time I can show a wood grain, I’m borderline obsessed.”

(14:30) Sarah talks about the live edge desk she made for Phil. (17:00) Sarah’s HGTV dream and the woman who inspired her at a young age: Kristie Allsop https://www.preloved.co.uk/blog/inspiration/kirstie-allsopp-fill-house-free/

(21:30) Lastly, lovin’ a music man ain’t always what It’s supposed to be. The challenges of marriage and family life with an itinerant worship leader. (24:45) Drew asks “Where do you find the courage to leave your full-time job and pursue your dream?” And the episode ends on a classic CreatorPod cliffhanger.

Sarah's channel: www.youtube.com/fourfortyfivedesigns

Outro Music: Dance of the Sugarplum Fairy Remix Justin Lucas www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNv-6xmKTVc