Grief isn’t always about tears — sometimes it’s about relief, confusion, or the awkward silence that follows when no one wants to say, “She wasn’t a good person.”
In this candid episode, Travis and Katherine talk about the death of Kat's mother — a woman whose legacy includes abuse, manipulation, and emotional wreckage. Together, they unpack what it means to mourn someone you don’t miss, how to navigate complicated grief, and why “family” isn’t always sacred.
It’s a raw conversation — at times heavy, at times darkly funny — about survival, healing, and saying goodbye without pretending it was all okay.
