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Dr. Whiting is a 2021 Palmarium Award recipient and director of graduate studies in the Department of African American & Diaspora Studies at Vanderbilt University. Whiting is responsible for developing the internationally renowned Scholarly Identity Model which is a psycho-social model that helps develop children in the educational sphere in a more robust fashion. A few classes he teaches include: Black Issues in Education, Life and Times of Muhammad Ali, and American Patriots: Blacks in the Military. Dr. Whiting is also the founding chair of the Achievement Gap Institute for George W. Peabody College of Education at Vanderbilt. Professor Whiting and I discuss affirmative action, music as understanding the past, and leadership.