In this episode, two OG's in Ed-reform David Hardy and Tyrone Mowatt stop by to talk about public education. In this no holds barred conversation, they talk about ways to be innovative and take risks as school leaders, by using innovative ways to reach Black and Brown students and families. Mr. Mowatt expands on his theory of sending "lifeboats" to save our students. Mr. Hardy expands on what quality should look like in Philly and beyond. They boss me around the whole show, but I'm humbled by the opportunity to learn from two of the best. Enjoy!