Around the time when I interviewed Jemar Tisby, I also had the opportunity to sit down with Daniel Hill, an author, pastor, and church planter from Chicago. While he was in New York City, we grabbed a few minutes to talk about whiteness and Christianity, something he is very familiar with, both personally and professionally. Like the one-on-one with Jemar, this conversation was recorded in the fall of 2018 and is not just seeing the light of day. Sadly, like Jemar’s prophetic words, this interview with Daniel is perhaps more pertinent to the health and future of the American church today than it was two years ago.