Though this conversation with Jemar Tisby took place in the fall of 2018, his words and guidance may be needed more today than ever before. While Tisby's The Color of Compromise has become a New York Times bestseller—and a regular recommendation for anyone interested in learning more about the long history of the church and racism—when we sat down to chat, the book hadn't been released yet.
This is the first episode of Hope in Hell's Kitchen, and it is the first of two conversations with Tisby.