I sit down with anti-racism activist, public speaker, and writer, Tim Wise. Wise has spoken at over 600 universities and colleges and is a regular guest on CNN. Wise and I discuss his unique path into the work of challenging and dismantling white supremacy. Apartheid, The Cosby Show, American policing practices, and Black forgiveness are just a few of the topics we discuss. But, as usual, this interview would not be complete without the 21 Questions of Death.