In this episode, Rob & Andy sit down with the one and only Ron Ponder — professional pickleball referee, rules guru, and one of the sport’s most recognisable personalities. From his journey into officiating to what it takes to keep calm when things get heated on court, Ron shares stories from the front lines of pro pickleball. We dive into controversial calls, rulebook gripes, referee training, and the fine art of managing players with flair and fairness. Plus, Ron reflects on the game’s explosive growth, his hopes for the future of officiating, and so much more. A must-listen for anyone who’s ever questioned a line call!