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On the fourth episode of Art of Science, Dr. Maureen Stobb (Georgia Southern University) and Dr. Banks Miller (University of Texas at Dallas) discuss their article, "Mixed messages & bounded rationality: The perverse consequences of real ID for immigration policy," co-authored with Dr. Joshua Kennedy and published in the Policy Studies Journal.

Paper: https://doi.org/10.1111/psj.12486

Transcript: https://artofsciencepod.substack.com/p/episode-4-dr-maureen-stobb-and-dr

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