Nathan's Journey from Infrared to Real Sauna.
A candid journey from infrared hype to authentic Finnish sauna, highlighting why real heat, löyly, and hot–cold contrast are so compelling. We discuss practice over marketing—ventilation, simple rituals, and family-friendly routines that deliver presence and stress relief. And we learn about Nathan's eye toward a future wood-fired sauna.
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CONTENTS
00:00 Introduction and how Risto and Nathan became friends
03:56 Nathan's first hot cold experiences
05:24 Selecting and buying and infrared "sauna"
07:45 Scientology and niacin
14:03 Experience with his IR
16:03 Getting a real sauna
17:59 Stress relief and mental health benefits
20:23 Saunaing with a young child
25:24 Nathan's sauna practice
37:58 Why IR doesn't cut it
39:00 The aim of sauna: sweat or something more?
42:35 Another lackluster IR experience
46:38 How financial motivations skew sauna opinions
50:36 Any plans for a wood-burning sauna?
