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Join Elizabeth as she has one heck of a talk with Marina Barcenilla - independent perfumer and fragrance educator, and, randomly, an Astrobiology Doctoral Researcher at the University of Westminster and Natural History Museum in London. This one is lively! Chemicals! Natural Cosmetics! Pedro Pascal! The conversation also goes full Chant Rat. (You'll need to listen to get it. Listen! You'll love it.)

More about Marina can be found here:

https://www.marinabarcenilla.com

https://mbparfums.com

and on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/marinabarcenillaparfums

https://www.instagram.com/marina_barcenilla