This episode is a brief catch up with my friend Maina Talia in Geneva. Before this talk we last saw each other in Funafuti where I was invited to be a panelist on indigenous rights of the workshop on climate-induced migration Toku Fenua, Toku Tofi (“My Island, My Birthright”). In this chat we talk about indigenous rights an that he wants Tuvalu to start looking more into. Enjoy the episode, and tweet me what you think @gomaluku and sign up for the #HowToIndigenousNow roundtable on Friday August 28, 6PM Sydney time > linkt.ree/gomaluku