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In this podcast episode, I will discuss my experience of the 5th dat at COP27, the United Nations climate conference taking place in Egypt. The final meetings for SBSTA and SBI are concluding and the conference will shift to a more political process next week. I informed the Indigenous Peoples Caucus and participated in meetings on articles 6.2, 6.4, and 6.8, and also made progress on the adoption of a decision on loss and damage. I will share my thoughts on the importance of being strategic when discussing sensitive information in negotiations and the emerging awareness among Indigenous Peoples about carbon markets. Enjoy!