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Today we are doing something a little bit different. This is the third episode of a mini-series entitled ‘What Makes An Astrologer,’ which came about as a result of the comments that Rob Hand made on a recent Astrology Podcast episode about significations in the birth chart of a professional astrologer.

The link to this episode is in the show notes. Therein, Rob Hand makes a bit of an off-hand comment saying

“The 11th sign from the Lot of Fortune is a Place of Acquisition. People [at Project Hindsight] started looking at their charts, and an awful lot of people had one of the following things true: The Lot of Fortune was in a sign ruled by Mercury, or Mercury was in the sign of the Lot of Fortune, or those same two condition applied to The Place of Acquisition, which is the 11th sign from the Lot of Fortune. And to this day, if I don’t find that in a person’s chart, I wonder about their credentials as an astrologer. This is for making money by astrology, by the way. It’s not for studying it. All you need to study it is a good, solid Mercury.”

In this series, I will speak with five astrologers and thinkers - Cameron Allen, Daniel Norman, Amy Green, Dorje Kirsten, and Ali A Olomi - about their thoughts on Rob Hand’s comments, and other significations they identify in the birth chart that may point to remuneration from astrology.

The series will culminate in a conversation between Mo and I where we discuss our research and the conclusions that we’ve drawn from it. In addition, I plan to release an article on my website after the series airs where I summarize our findings and the thoughts of my guests in this series.

Please be sure to subscribe to my website for updates, which is linked in the show notes below.

Now for my third conversation of this series with the thought provoking astrologer Dorje Kirsten of Heart Astrology. Here’s a bit more about Dorje from his bio on his website, which I’ve linked in the show notes.

“Dorje was certified as a medieval astrologer in 2011. He is a professional astrologer who offers a variety of services to personal clients. His method of reading the chart is a blend of classical techniques and modern interpretations, a culmination of 30 years of study. For 20 years he has been reading charts professionally using traditional astrology techniques learned from experience and studying courses from such luminaries as Robert Zoller, Robert Hand, Bernadette Brady, and Joseph Crane.”

Speaking on his training as an astrologer, Dorje said: "I think it is important that anyone giving professional readings certifies from a successful teacher, and has mindfulness or therapy training of some sort under their belt."

In this episode we talk about the importance of defining what it means to be an astrologer, the difficulties inherent therein, and the boundaries of the label “professional astrologer.”

In addition to talking about the Moon in the charts of astrologers, we also talk about the roles that Venus and Jupiter may play, and get into stoicism vs. theurgy as it relates to the very purpose of astrology. It was a really rich, informative conversation. Thanks again for joining me, Dorje.

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Visit my website here - https://luminaries-in-and-out-of-sect-podcast.ghost.io/

Book a consultation with Dorje - https://heartastrology.com/

Find Dorje on Instagram and Twitter - https://www.instagram.com/heartastrology168/; https://twitter.com/dorjepadma

Dorje’s article about Rob Hand’s comments - https://heartastrology.com/you-can-be-an-astrologer/ 

Astrology Podcasters Q&A Trialogue - https://youtu.be/i5ymoA45RAM

‘The Picatrix’ - https://youtu.be/vkTjOonTMpM