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Jr. Lilly is a Native American, part of the Tachii’nii (Red Running Into Water), and born for the Tsenjikini (Cliff Dwelling People). He is a bridge person and by bridge person what I mean is- he is a connector of others and someone who supports the beautiful work of other indigenous people all over the world and in this country. He also works for Portland city government, Portland Indigenous Market Place, and is on the board of the Portland Parks Foundation just to name a few of the things he is involved in. 
We talked about the beauty and responsibility found within tribal relationships and the non-dualistic way most Native Americans live. One in which they are not just an individual but a part of the whole, a part of something bigger themselves. We talk spirituality and the role of nature in both of our spiritual practices. We also touch on what I like to call the colonizing of spiritual practices, something that we white Americans have a horrible track record of participating in, not only for our own spiritual absorption but to monetize what doesn't belong to us. We also get into how we can do better and what we can do differently. 
Jr. was so generous with his time, life, and experience, as well as stories to help us connect back to the earth, those we care for, and help get us through this time. 
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Music by Todd Fadel
Jr. mentions Randy Woodley and the late Richard Twiss