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“By the Book” podcast hosts Kristen Meinzer and Jolenta Greenberg are here to talk about their new book, “How to Be Fine: What We Learned from Living the Rules of 50 Self-Help Books.” Every two weeks, Jolenta and Kristen upend their lives to live out the advice of books such as “The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up,” “The Four Agreements” and “Girl, Wash Your Face” to the letter. The result is some real insight into which books work and which books are selling some false promises. There are also hilarious interactions between the two friends as well as between Jolenta and Kristen and their respective husbands, Brad and Dean. You’ll find tons of love for Dolly Parton and Oprah Winfrey throughout this episode, too!