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In this episode of the Enduring Minds Podcast, hosts Jason Bahamundi and Evan Birch are joined by their wives, Lori Hauck and Cassie Hawrysh, for a candid conversation about the realities of mental health, relationships, and resilience.

From the very start, the discussion dives into the heart of what makes endurance athletes, and partners, strong: support systems.

Evan shares his experiences with PTSD and depression, highlighting how Cassie's encouragement and open communication have created a safe space for growth.

Jason reflects on the balance between chasing athletic goals and protecting his mental wellness, while Lori offers unique insight when to push and the need to rest.

Together, the couples discuss the importance of emotional safety, celebrating small victories, and finding laughter amid the struggles. Their stories remind us that relationships aren’t built on perfection, but on patience, honesty, and shared strength.

Tune in to discover how relationships and endurance sports intersect to build stronger athletes—and stronger humans.

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