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In this episode of our podcast, Craig and Jonah dive deep into the complexities of marriage, intimacy, and the challenges that come with navigating relationships in a Catholic context. They discuss the struggles of balancing desire and abstinence, particularly during periods of Natural Family Planning (NFP), and how these dynamics can create tension in a marriage.
Craig shares his recent experience with fasting and how it impacted his desire for intimacy, leading to a candid conversation about the differences between men and women in these situations. The duo reflects on the teachings of St. Paul regarding marriage and the difficulties of serving both God and a spouse, while also exploring the implications of polygamy and societal expectations.
Join us as we unpack the emotional rollercoaster of married life, the constant push and pull of desire, and the quest for understanding in a relationship. Whether you're married, single, or somewhere in between, this episode offers insights into the realities of love, commitment, and the unique challenges faced by couples today.
Topics Discussed:
- The impact of fasting on desire and intimacy
- The challenges of NFP and its effects on marriage
- Differences in male and female perspectives on intimacy
- The teachings of St. Paul and their relevance today
- Exploring polygamy and societal norms
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00:00:00 - Beginning
00:00:30 - Discussion of St. Paul’s view on challenges in serving God while married.
00:01:09 - Jonah shares his recent fasting experience and its effect on his relationship.
00:01:34 - Intimacy buildup and frustrations from unmet expectations.
00:02:46 - Sensitive discussions the need for a safe communication space.
00:04:18 - Is Polygamy the solution?
00:05:25 - The Pain of Abstinence vs. Fasting
00:07:27 - Effects of Fasting on Desire
00:09:11 - The Struggle of Detachment
00:10:29 - Reconnecting with Intimacy
00:12:35 - Differences in marital experiences and desires between men and women.
00:15:41 - The Burden of Motherhood
00:16:34 - Constant Background Frustration of Abstinence and NFP
00:17:32 - The Challenge of Commitment
00:18:51 - Intermittent intimacy and the resulting emotional strain.
00:19:42 - Universal Struggles in Relationships
00:23:29 - The Complexity of Marriage, and the added weight of Moral Rules
00:25:53 - Emotional highs and lows linked to marital intimacy.
00:27:44 - Polygamy and Its Implications
00:30:45 - The Burden of Catholic Rules
00:35:20 - Navigating Difficulties in Marriage
00:38:32 - Survival Mode in NFP
00:41:38 - The Search for Thriving Couples
Expresses a desire to find thriving couples amidst marital challenges.
00:46:58 - The Mystery of Marriage
Contemplates marital complexities and gender differences.
00:50:40 - Resignation to the Struggles
Jonah reflects on accepting marital struggles and complexities.
00:53:51 - Conclusion: The Cost of Fasting
Final thoughts on fasting and a preference for intimacy over abstinence.
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