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Kristen Ziman joins Jamey to talk optimism, disruption, crisis leadership, and more.

Kristen is an author and highly impactful leadership speaker and consultant. She draws on her 30 year career in policing where she blazed trails. She was the first female lieutenant, commander, and police chief at her department.

Kristen is the former chief of Aurora, Illinois, where she was chief on watch during a mass shooting in that town.