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Today's show directly addresses a question that we are often asked because of our decades of work on international environmental problems - such as desertification in China, the Chernobyl nuclear accident, the disappearing Aral Sea, and climate change. It's a question that seems to be on the tip of the tongue for more and more people in all walks of life. The question is, "are we going to make it?"