Shay is the CMO of ActiveCampaign. We chat about:
(3:19) - What a CMO Actually Does
(8:42) - Using Design as a Mechanism to Solve Problems
(16:35) - Design, Marketing, Product... Which is Most Important?
(18:29) - ActiveCampaign's Moat
(23:11) - What People Don't Understand About AI in Marketing
(30:50) - Future of Email Marketing
(40:55) - Favorite Quote & Most Polarizing Belief
