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It’s everybody’s favorite on-the-job trope: Kids these days? Yeah, they don’t know how to work. We’ve been saying this a long time. Our workplace tribalism dramatizes the polarization in the broader society.


But hey, good news! The Mode/Switch Pod is not a political podcast. It’s a workplace culture podcast, focused on helping you (and your workplace) heal from the intensities of work today. As usual, we feature an intergenerational crew of Mode/Switchers: Emily, Ken, LaShone, and—this week as a Gen Z guest—Sheila Witvliet.

You’ll won’t hear a single mention of the electoral college this week. No hot air, no high winds. But even so, we are talking about American dividedness—in the intergenerational workplace.

Few of us can fix national politics, at least not any time soon. But workplace differences? Yeah, that’s something you and I can get to work on right now.