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In this episode, host Paul Wolf talks to Lulu Seikaly, senior corporate employment counsel at PayScale, about human first and empathetic leadership. Lulu shares examples of the impact of empathetic leadership on employee loyalty and organizational success, drawing from her own experiences of working with good and bad bosses. She also emphasizes the importance of soft skills and transparency in promoting trust and appreciation among employees. Additionally, Lulu talks about her role at PayScale in ensuring compliance with pay equity and pay transparency laws and how organizations can benefit from such laws by promoting fair and inclusive compensation practices.


Lulu Seikaly is a seasoned employment attorney with extensive experience in advising employers on employment-related issues, developing policies and processes to support employees, and conducting workplace investigations into allegations of misconduct, discrimination, harassment, and workplace bullying.

Her experience in representing employers across the country in EEOC and state agency charges of discrimination and retaliation has given her a deep understanding of the legal landscape surrounding employment law. She has defended employers in mediations, arbitrations, and administrative hearings and has developed best employer practices to minimize legal risk.