2 V's of R Ami (amar R Yochanan) about 2 shluchim needing to say "b'faneinu..." on 7th (and 6th) case of Mishna and conclusion that don't (like V1 of R Shmuel b Yehuda amar R Yochanan), debate get mukdam and debate about reason for zman in Gittin with Q's and A's
