In Episode 22 of The Seed Pod. guest Sam Gibson and I kÅrero/chat about living as part of nature, and being inherently connected to the whenua/land. We discuss the deep knowledge that 'bush people' including hunters, fishers and foragers have. Sam talks about the importance of mahinga kai/food gathering sites for identity, connection and culture and how he and a group of hunting friends started the Eastern Whio Link Project to protect crucial habitat and mahinga kai areas. We talk conservation tools, the catastrophic impacts of wild cats and dogs, raising kids in the bush, and mokopuna decision making - decisions with future generations in mind.