Listen to the full interview with Markus van Alphen:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2C6eqLBnjo2zfoxB9nOzOq?si=cxVExqD3RQuDBmn6u6FBDg
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/coachful-coaching-leadership-podcast/id1682682151?i=1000700022537
