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Bob and I sit down with Mat T from The Great Deception Podcast and have a very casual conversation about Christmas movies and music. Little to no conspiracy here tonight, just shooting the shit. Enjoy!

Special thanks to Negativland, OTE and The Residents (with Santa Dog from both 1999 and 1972)

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And find The Great Deception Podcast here: https://open.spotify.com/show/74IIgJi4NRfXUHajgOsmGZ