Bob and CHUD start a conversation by talking about the circus, leading them into the questions of when childhood ends, what is nostalgia and if video games play into this. At the end we realize the whole conversation has been about what Ted Kacynski termed "surrogate activities" This episode is dedicated to the memory of Uncle Ted and his amazing writing. Special thanks to Negativland, OTE and Samla Mammas Manna for musical contributions knowingly or otherwise.