In our first ever collab episode, Caleb has a conversation with Duncan Robinson & Chris Cipollone from The Dead Elephants Podcast and they discuss need for 'real' authenticity in our culture & church.
The Upside Down People & Dead Elephants aim to have real conversations and explore the integration of faith in everyday life which is what drew us to doing this cool crossover episode. We discuss the need to break out of echo chambers, engage with different perspectives & the concept of authenticity in leaders & churches.
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