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“So many parents are showing up and listening. I’m going to keep showing up with them.” —April Dinwoodie, episode 28.

After decades in this space as a transracial adoptee, activist, executive director, podcaster, mentor, and many other roles, what still surprises April? How might people do this work in a healthy way? What can be the personal costs of advocacy? We talk about this and so much more in a fascinating conversation that covers family preservation, the state of adoption, and spaces in between.

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April Dinwoodie:

 

Sara Easterly:

 

Kelsey Vander Vliet Ranyard:

 

Lori Holden: