Mark and Marvin begin this episode with a discussion of the biggest Black publishers in the nation. There is an interview of Marvin by Mark about his favorite childhood books. Marvin turns the table on Mark and asks him his favorite childhood books. The pair discuss the idea behind Jingle Jangle. In this episode Mark and Marvin discuss Obama's memoir and Marvin offers a different perspective and alternative to Obama. In less than 35 minutes the pair go back and forth and round and round. It is a good episode. It is a fun episode.