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Episode 13: Claire Thomson @5oclockapron, chef, food writer and author chat to Rachel and Charlie about her passion for family cooking and food. She talks about her own new podcast "The 5 o'clock apron podcast" and upcoming Veggie family cookbook. The mainstay of her cooking is vegetables and believes that meat should, be an occasional treat. We discuss the importance of eating together and educating children about food, cooking and culture.

1:30 Introduction and catch up - Welsh farmers' protests and Junior doctor strikes

3:20 Introduction to Claire Thomson and her upcoming ne vegie family cookbook.

6:40 Claire talks about her new podcast "The 5 o'clock apron podcast" - cooking with every profession other than her own.

9:30 Family cooking, world cuisine and culture

13:00 The importance of cooking as a family

14:20 Managing fussy eaters

16:40 Maxing out your chicken

19:30 The family meal

20:30 Claire's approach to meat, eating nose to tail

26:00 Claire's Top 3 vegetables

28:30 Buying Veg locally and in season

31:30 The downside of cooking on social media