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For more thoughts, clips, and updates, follow Avetis Antaplyan on Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/avetisantaplyan⁠

In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan sits down with Alex Shartsis, serial founder, former corporate development lead, and current CEO of Skyp.ai—to unpack the real cost of “growth at all costs.” With scars and exits to back his views, Alex offers a candid breakdown of what founders get wrong about product-market fit, fundraising traps, and the often-misunderstood economics of scaling.

Together, they explore why bootstrapping is back in vogue, how over-raising can kill flexibility, and how AI is redefining what it means to be a lean operator. Alex draws from his time at Perfect Price and now Skyp.ai to expose the hidden “footwork” behind successful GTM strategies and why most SaaS founders underprice out of insecurity. The conversation is loaded with tactical advice—from navigating platform creep to testing pricing thresholds—and peppered with war stories from the front lines of both venture-backed and bootstrapped journeys.

Whether you're scaling an AI startup or building quietly with customer revenue, this episode challenges conventional wisdom and lays out what durable, customer-obsessed growth looks like in 2026.

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Chapters

00:00 Growth at All Costs Is Dead

01:07 What Acquirers Really Care About

02:35 The Mirage of Product-Market Fit

05:10 Amazon vs. Realistic Unit Economics

06:44 When Losing Money Is Okay—And When It’s Not

08:01 The Advice Trap: When Playbooks Expire

10:01 The SurveyMonkey Blueprint (And Its Limits)

13:06 How Bootstrapping Forces Better Decision-Making

17:34 Owning the Downside: Founders vs. VCs

20:13 Building a $5M Business Without Needing a Billion-Dollar Exit

22:30 Platform Creep and Product Dilution

27:53 Customer Success Is the Real Differentiator

29:49 Jiu-Jitsu and GTM Footwork

36:39 How AI Changes How Work Gets Done

44:43 Prototyping, Building, and Speed with AI Tools

46:41 Pricing Insecurity and Willingness to Pay

51:01 You Are Not Your Customer: Pricing Psychology

53:48 Cheap Gym Memberships, Expensive Lessons

Alex Shartsis’s Social Media Link:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shartsis/

Resources and Links:

⁠⁠https://www.hireclout.com⁠⁠

⁠⁠https://www.podcast.hireclout.com⁠⁠

⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright⁠