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TW: This episode contains content that may be upsetting or triggering to some audiences, including discussion of depression, anxiety, OCD and suicidal ideation.

Welcome to episode four, where Alix is joined by Luke McPherson, a mental health ambassador who delayed seeking treatment for his own mental health as he struggled to overcome self-stigma. Since seeking help, Luke has shared his own story to encourage others to seek support and look after their mental wellbeing.

Next, Alix speaks to Telethon Kids Institute researcher Megan Ansell, who discusses her research into self-stigma and why it often shows up differently in young people than adults.

Megan recently won funding from Embrace to develop a resource for healthcare workers with information on stigma and self-stigma.

If this episode has caused you distress, please reach out to a loved one or call Lifeline on 13 11 14.

Embrace is supported by its principal partner, Rio Tinto.

Today's first guest Luke also has his own podcast, Between the Ears.