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Full Episode link: https://youtu.be/BlxR5dqm3O4

Host Anirudh Suri and guest Helen discuss the future of oil-producing nations like Saudi Arabia in the context of ongoing climate transitions. They analyze potential scenarios of reduced oil dependence, the geopolitical implications, and the continued necessity for oil in certain sectors, comparing it to historical shifts from coal to other energy sources post-World War II.

**Helen Thompson** is an English academic who teaches politics at Cambridge University, where she is a professor of political economy and a fellow of Clare College, Cambridge, where she is also Director of Studies.

She has been working in Cambridge since 1994 and is currently a member of the Department of Politics and International Studies. One of her recent research interests is the aftermath of the 2008 Financial crisis.

00:00 Introduction: The Future of Oil-Producing Nations

00:17 Saudi Arabia's Role in a Changing Energy Landscape

01:00 Comparing Oil to Coal: Historical and Future Perspectives

01:52 Geopolitical Implications of Energy Transitions

03:35 The Continued Importance of Oil and Petrochemicals

03:55 A Multi-Energy Future and Its Geopolitical Tensions

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#AnirudhSuri:
**The Great Tech Game by Anirudh Suri:** [amzn.eu/d/1Su38My](http://amzn.eu/d/1Su38My)

#HelenThompson

**Disorder: Hard Times in the 21st Century**: https://amzn.eu/d/72bIz8J

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