This episode is the second part of our story about the Electronic Visualization Lab (EVL) at the University of Illinois at Chicago. First, we talk to Maxine Brown, director of EVL, about her background and her 30+ years at EVL. We learn about CAVE2, the latest large scale virtual reality environment invented at EVL. Ph.D. graduate Victor Mateevitsi describes his experiences as a student at EVL, working on major systems like CAVE2. Victor then tells the story of his invention SpiderSense, a wearable jacket that lets users navigate and experience the world around them--without sight.