“I've been on this big journey of the small steps lately. I love sharing the small steps. I know sometimes for some people they might look insignificant, but for me they're huge. So everybody's got different levels that they're at. If you set yourself up with smaller steps, you are more likely not to fail. If we have these massive goals and we go, we've got this goal and it looks so far out of reach and you end up, you know, not enjoying it. You end not hitting them... So, yeah, I make little goals on the way. I seem to get there pretty quick when I make these little goals.”
Episode #120 of The Hope Initiative with Nic Kalo.
