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“Another lady got on, a lovely lady, born again Christian lady. And she was abusing me for not going to church every Sunday. And I wasn't going to have an argument with her. And then she got on one day and she started again and I said, “You go to church every Sunday?” She said yes. I said, “Well that's really good, I'm glad and I'm happy for you to go, but I don't need to go to a church.” She said, “What do you mean?” I said, “A church is made by man. Look at all around you. This is God's Cathedral. The trees, the sky, everything that you look at is God's creation. Why would I need to go into a man made creation for it?” And she must have thought about it when she got on the bus the next time. She apologised to me for being rude to me and said, “You're right.”

It's just not making her wrong, but making people look outside the square. Making people realise that there's a lot more going on.”

Episode #174 of The Hope Initiative with Stewart Heggie

Born in the UK in 1946, Stewart Heggie moved to Australia in his mid 20’s seeking a better life and found that driving buses, communicating with his passengers and following his curiosity.

In this wide ranging chat, we discuss the importance of communication, taking responsibility in life, setting the example, the education system and family unit, plus much more.

Thanks to Stewart for joining me and thank you to listening!

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