In this episode I have a conversation with Petra Keijzer. Petra guides people to get in touch with their own feelings and emotions to become embodied and able to take charge of their own life. Listen to this inspiring and fun talk on how personal leadership starts with holding your thumb. You can find Petra www.destroomstudio.nl Instagram @destroomstudio. Back to la Tierra is a natural retreat and inspiration centre in Mijas, Malaga, Spain where we offer independent accommodation with or without regenerative lifestyle & yoga sessions in a Spanish finca amidst a food forest homestead run by Marina & Paul Arts Instagram @backtolatierra www.backtolatierra.com