In this conversation, Shawn Sullivan and Nikki Jones, lead singer of the Nikki Jones Band, discuss the importance of mental health support and the lack of resources for individuals with mental illness. They share personal experiences with depression and the challenges they faced in seeking help. They also talk about the stigma surrounding mental health and the need for open conversations. The conversation highlights the signs to look out for in loved ones who may be struggling and emphasizes the importance of reaching out and offering support. The conversation explores the lack of accountability for websites that provide information on suicide methods and the need for them to be shut down. They discuss the complexity of mental illnesses and the individual experiences of those who suffer from them. The importance of family support and coming together as a cohesive unit is emphasized. The conversation also touches on the need for improved mental health resources, including better access to counseling and support hotlines.