For this episode I speak to Sarah Brouillette, a professor of English at Carleton University about her essay "Domestic Heteropessimism" that she wrote for Post 45’s Heteropessimism cluster. We discuss the resource inefficiency of the nuclear couple and alternatives to the supremacy of the nuclear family as the only place structurally to receive care, safety, and sustenance. We also discuss the concept of familial love and how it can be used to exploit women.