Is your team burned out by doing ministry for people instead of with people?
In this episode, Hunter Melton sits down with pastors John Joseph and Garrett Gregory to talk about one of the most sacred, often unseen parts of ministry—shepherding. They unpack what it really means to care for souls, build sustainable systems of care, and walk with people through grief and growth.From navigating hospital visits to avoiding ministry burnout, this episode offers honest stories, biblical grounding, and practical rhythms that help pastors stay rooted in Christ while leading others.If you're a ministry leader who’s tired, stretched, or asking how to care for your people without losing yourself, this conversation is for you.Episode Guests:Timestamps:00:00 – Why shepherding matters more than ever03:30 – What God is doing at each campus09:00 – What does it really mean to shepherd people?15:00 – Systems vs. single-mindedness in pastoral care21:30 – Building teams that multiply care27:00 – When to delegate and when to step in35:00 – How to walk with people through suffering45:00 – What not to say in a crisis50:00 – Helping your staff avoid burnout56:00 – Why pastors need small groups too1:02:00 – Anchoring your soul in Christ while leading others1:08:00 – Final encouragements for weary leadersResources Mentioned:Elevate Church Conference | September 9, 2025Join us for the Elevate Church Conference at Brentwood Baptist in Nashville, TN. Learn from seasoned church leaders, grow your ministry team, and gain practical tools for your church’s next chapter. Register now at elevatechurchconference.com