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Today's guest was another one of the Samoan Scientists (Amy Maslen-Miller) recommendations and friends. 

Amy told me about a female only retreat that she had attended and spoke highly of the host Anatola, also saying she would be a great guest to have on my podcast sometime.

When I did some research and found out she was a feminist, I was hesitant in approaching her at first, but after talking with my wife and her encouraging me to step out in faith, approach my fear and go for it, I nervously sent her a message to see if she would be interested in talking with me. Anatola was most friendly and kindly accepted my offer.

Although we didn't have much in common, what we did have in common, respect and an openness to hear out each others beliefs and thoughts made for a really great conversation and forum for sharing about some big topics that affect us all.

I have seen some feminists speak online and talked with a few in person but it was only surface talk. In this episode, we dig deep on subjects I was scared to talk about publicly, making it the most uncomfortable and challenging podcast I have done so far. 

I am grateful for my wife encouraging me to pursue Anatola as it was cool to connect with her and it definitely helped me grow and gain a different perspective on things. I hope she felt the same way and all who listen to this episode too.

Wherever you stand on the things we talk about, one thing stands out. You don't always have to agree on everything or have the same beliefs to be friends, hang out and get along.

Thanks again Anatola for coming on the show!:)